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jmslsu01
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northern VA | posted: 11/15/2006 at 6:40:10 PM ET
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I find Lloyd Webber's inclusion a bit puzzling. I've often thought of these honors going to someone at the end of their career.
You're not alone-it's usually given to people who have already reached the top of their profession quite a few years ago. Not that their career is over, of course, but it's not given to a rising star or someone at the peak of their career.
He is younger than the usual recipient, I think.
Jenn
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Karen
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The 1980s were Webber's peak years of professional power and influence.
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Scottie
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Oh, I think his success as a composer has gone beyond that decade. IMHO his artistic masterpiece came in the 1990's with Sunset Boulevard.
as Bernadette says....just keep moving on.....
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jmslsu01
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northern VA | posted: 11/15/2006 at 7:09:32 PM ET
His professional power and influence was in the 1980s. His shows after POTO have not been nearly as successful. It would be extremely difficult for anyone to keep up that momentum, and I would be surprised if he ever replicates a decade of Evitas (Broadway version), Cats, and Phantoms (before someone jumps in-Song & Dance is not in the same financial and influential league. At all.).
He was also ill for several years.
He's supposed to be working on a new show. Good for him. I can't for the life of me remember what it's supposed to be about, but it sounded rather strange.
Jenn
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Karen
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Let me put it this way: I think Sondheim's peak years were probably 1970 to 1987 (Company to Into The Woods), with 1979 (Sweeney Todd) his highest career point. That's not to dismiss Assassins or Passion, but they're post-Golden Age accomplishments, just as Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum is pre-Golden Age. This is all very schematic , but I'm oversimplifying to make a point.
Every artist has a career arc in the eyes of his or her contemporary public. Later generations may have a somewhat different perception of that arc. For example, late career works are sometimes appreciated more in retrospect then they are when new. Nevertheless, there's always a career arc, with its inevitable downward curve.
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jmslsu01
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northern VA | posted: 11/15/2006 at 7:24:43 PM ET
Oh, sure. I can't argue with you there. I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone, even the most ardent Sondheim fan, that doesn't think his best years are very much behind him, and were when he received the KC honor.
And some may say that you are being generous extending his peak years to 1987.
Jenn
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Karen
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I'll agree with that!
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Scottie
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Professional power and influence do not necessarily equate with artistic prowess and as such I think his best output has been the less popular works ... to name just one - Aspects of Love - a truly beautiful piece of musical theatre.
As far as Song And Dance is concerned, who else would have dared to present a West End and Broadway musical that was centered around a woman on stage, totally alone?
Sorry, just harking back to Lord Andrew for a moment...
as Bernadette says....just keep moving on.....
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jmslsu01
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northern VA | posted: 11/15/2006 at 7:53:41 PM ET
I think I'm about to go in circles again, and I don't really want to debate ALW's career tonight. Today was a major drama day, and I just can't do this tonight. But if I have ever given the impression in this post or in any post that I believe that "[p]rofessional power and influence do not necessarily equate with artistic prowess" I would really like to know. Honestly.
Jenn
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Scottie
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Circles? In that case, sorry I offered an opinion and even sorrier you seem to find my words loaded with some sort of content that was never intended or implied. But since this thread carries the subject "Webber" I really thought I was on topic and that differing opinions were allowed - if not exactly tolerated. Honestly.
as Bernadette says....just keep moving on.....
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jmslsu01
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northern VA | posted: 11/15/2006 at 8:32:48 PM ET
I was talking about me going in circles. It seems to take me several posts before I can explain what I mean, and it's just not happening tonight. And I was serious about my last comment. I do not want to give the impression that I must have made.
Jenn
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Yes, I think Webber is one of the younger honorees--I don't have the time right now, but I took a very quick look at the lists of past honorees and Bob Dylan was 56, Sondheim was 63, and Webber just 58.
Just by a casual glance,over the years they seem to be much older--fiting, I suppose, since it is a lifetime achievement award.
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Jean
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The rumors have started about who will be at the Honors Awards ceremony (as you know, it is supposed to be a surprise):
Today's Washington Post is reporting that Reese Witherspoon will present the award to Dolly Parton. (The Reliable Source, p. C3 )
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Jean
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Here's another one: Christine Ebersole will be at the KC Honors. (That's why Maureen Moore will be in Grey Gardens on Dec. 3.)
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Karen
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Christine Ebersole? I wonder what connection she has to any of the honorees.
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Doesn't matter to me what her connections are. lol As long as I get to hear her sing. 
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