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Scottie
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Edinburgh, Scotland | posted: 11/8/2006 at 8:30:27 PM ET
Jenn, thank you, I loved watching that! So nice to know it was this old town Dolly was in.
I agree about the Oscar nominated song - and also the Oscar nominated actress from the same film was equally "robbed" of her Oscar too. It is my favourite film of the past year.
as Bernadette says....just keep moving on.....
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Karen
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But should an honor supposedly given for artistic achievement and cultural contributions be based on the money pumped into the tax system? Actual question--not rhetorical.
I find it disturbing that the Kennedy Center honors are increasingly going (almost exclusively) to very commercialized, pop-oriented celebrities. Hard to believe now, but in the early years of the Kennedy Center, recipients included figures like Virgil Thomson, Rudolph Serkin, Merce Cunningham, and Alexander Schneider. Would any of those people, if they were still alive, even be considered eligible today?
Interested in hearing other's thoughts on the matter.
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 moljul
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| posted: 11/8/2006 at 9:59:15 PM ET
I'm going to have to set a tape as I'll be in Scotland. Or maybe they run there. Scottie, surely you can help me out on that question. 
"I'm one star away from Dolly Parton ... and Raymond Massey is between us. I hope we don't suffocate him." Bernadette Peters receiving her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, April 24, 1987
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 Christine-NYC
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| posted: 11/9/2006 at 1:11:30 PM ET
We should all take the "Bernadette fan bus" to Dollywood! lol
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Scottie
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I'm going to have to set a tape as I'll be in Scotland. Or maybe they run there. Scottie, surely you can help me out on that question.
I think you had better set that tape. One thing I can tell you for sure is don't forget to pack plenty of winter woolies. You'll need them! I was there last week and it was getting mighty chilly already. Have a super time in that beautiful country. (OK, I may be a little bit biased)
as Bernadette says....just keep moving on.....
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Scottie
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But should an honor supposedly given for artistic achievement and cultural contributions be based on the money pumped into the tax system? Actual question--not rhetorical.
I find it disturbing that the Kennedy Center honors are increasingly going (almost exclusively) to very commercialized, pop-oriented celebrities. Hard to believe now, but in the early years of the Kennedy Center, recipients included figures like Virgil Thomson, Rudolph Serkin, Merce Cunningham, and Alexander Schneider. Would any of those people, if they were still alive, even be considered eligible today?
Interested in hearing other's thoughts on the matter.
Oops ... sorry, Karen, I am usually in tune with your posts but in this instance my attention was rather thrown sideways by ... hmm ...another less erudite post.
I am sure Lord Lloyd Webber is being celebrated at the Kennedy Centre for rather more than his financial contribution to your tax system . Who knows? There may even be some people in this world who think he has some musical and artistic merit too ... and though not a fan of his entire output - myself included.
as Bernadette says....just keep moving on.....
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Karen
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Although it might have appeared I was singling out Webber or Parton by my questions and comments, that really wasn't my intent. The Kennedy Center has always included movie stars and pop singers among their honorees. The last few years though, the populist slant seems to have run amok and crowded out artists with less widely based recognition/appeal. I've been bemoaning that situation for a while now. Unfortunately, plopping my slightly disorganized musings down in the midst of a thread about Andrew Lloyd Webber and Dolly Parton was probably misleading since that made it appear they were inspiring my thoughts when they were not.
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Scottie
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Just as well Lord Lloyd Webber is neither a pop singer or a movie star .... don't know where that leaves our lovely Dolly though!
To be totally honest, I have absolutely no idea where the Kennedy Centre is - far less - what it is. Whatever it is though - God bless it!
as Bernadette says....just keep moving on.....
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Karen
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It's a quasi-governmental performing arts center in Washington D.C.
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moljul
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| posted: 11/15/2006 at 5:04:05 PM ET
Well Karen, I'm not sure JFK's estate would agree with the "quasi-governmental" part.
Here is a link to the page that best describes the Center's existence and purpose.
http://www.kennedy-center.org/about/welcome.html
"I'm one star away from Dolly Parton ... and Raymond Massey is between us. I hope we don't suffocate him." Bernadette Peters receiving her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, April 24, 1987
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Scottie
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Thanks for the link - it certainly puts it all into the right perspective. It looks like no big deal - just another notch on Lord Andrew's already over-gilded belt. I'm sure he will turn up and make a suitably polite and grateful speech and then get straight back home to some real work.
as Bernadette says....just keep moving on.....
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moljul
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| posted: 11/15/2006 at 6:10:43 PM ET
Actually a Kennedy Center Honor at least used to be considered a huge honor. I'm assuming for some, if not many, it still is.
And recipients are not permitted to make any remarks. The tributes to each honoree are usually very well put together and pretty lengthy. One of my favorites was when Bernadette was a part of Carol Burnett's recent tribute. Carol looked extremely touched. Of course Bernadette has been a part of several tributes over the years - Stephen Sondheim and Mary Martin to just name two.
I find Lloyd Webber's inclusion a bit puzzling. I've often thought of these honors going to someone at the end of their career.
"I'm one star away from Dolly Parton ... and Raymond Massey is between us. I hope we don't suffocate him." Bernadette Peters receiving her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, April 24, 1987
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Scottie
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So Stephen Sondheim received his Kennedy Centre honour at the end of his career?
I certainly hope not!
as Bernadette says....just keep moving on.....
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 Sister Rose
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IMHO, it IS a huge honor and the nominating committee is made up of honorees so I think it's still very special. I never miss it. While I wish it was Jerry Herman instead of ALW, I didn't ever mean to imply that he doesn't deserve one because he has certainly contributed something - afterall, our Bernadette did win a Tony for an ALW work.
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Karen
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By quasi-governmental, I meant that only a very limited portion of its funding comes from public money. The National Parks Service uses tax money to maintain the grounds & facilities, but the performances presented are funded by a combination of private philanthropy, corporate subsidies, and ticket sales.
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jmslsu01
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I find Lloyd Webber's inclusion a bit puzzling. I've often thought of these honors going to someone at the end of their career.
You're not alone-it's usually given to people who have already reached the top of their profession quite a few years ago. Not that their career is over, of course, but it's not given to a rising star or someone at the peak of their career.
He is younger than the usual recipient, I think.
Jenn
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