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 mrbig
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Fav. BP CD: Sondheim, Etc.
| posted: 7/15/2003 at 9:45:30 PM ET
I have gone to many websites that offer mp3 streams of popular artists. I know that many of these sites do this illegally because the material is copywrited. However, some of the sites offer mp3 streams that are taken directly from televised performances and concerts (material that was never released commercially). For instance I have visited a Bette Midler site that has streams from many of her concert productions in the 70's. The streams are not great quality and they were obviously recorded by someone in the audience of the concert. I have always wondered how "legal" it is to present these streams over the internet. They are not from albums, soundtracks, or from materials that might be purchased. They seem to exist simply for the die-hard fans who don't mind even a "rough" recording of a favorite artist.
The reason I am asking is this...I have many Bernadete mp3's that I have made for MY OWN ENJOYMENT in the car, at home, etc. I have NEVER shared them before because I am uncertain of the legality of sharing. I have recorded these treasures from a great variety of television appearances, etc. and I really treasure the performances. The quality is not the greatest (I recorded aome of them from old VHS tapes...some of which are 10+ years old) but they are not the worst. The majority of them sound pretty good. I have been a Bernadette fan ever since I saw her in Annie (at the movie theater) when I was a child. I would never want to make money off of her. I am a HUGE fan. I have often wondered if Kevin has ever thought of adding a "sounds" section to his website. I would gladly offer these mp3's to him because I know that it would be the true fans who would listen to and enjoy them. Some of the songs I have are recent (for instance... "Rose's Turn" from the Tony's) and some are older (Bernadette singing "Send in the Clowns" with Sondheim at the piano). I know that Kevin has screen captures from tv appearances, so why not have the sounds to go with them? It is the legality of it that I am not sure of...but would love to be "enlightened" about  I also don't know if adding streams is a huge expense. I hope that nobody is offended or thinks that I am trying to exploit Bernadette. I have not mentioned this before because I don't want to offend anyone. I know that some people who visit this board know Bernadette personally. Like I stated before...this is not for my own personal financial gain. I just hate keeping them to myself because I know many other fans would really apprecate having them. I hope this doesn't start a huge debate or arguement...but I would love to hear what you think.
mrbig from big d
"No matter what you say, Children Will Listen..."
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Bwaybaby
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3/10/2001 | posted: 7/15/2003 at 9:53:05 PM ET
Hey, I think that's a great idea. I mean as long as they weren't illegally recorded ( like at a concert). Then I don't see why it would be a legal issue. I mean, its legal for people to record things with thier VCRS and pass that around so I don't see why this would be such a problem. But don't hold me to that...I am not a lawyer or anything LOL
I think its actually really nice of you to even offer up something like that for people who may have never heard the things you've referred to before 
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 Kevin
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South Jersey
Fav. BP CD: Sondheim, Etc.
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| posted: 7/15/2003 at 9:54:14 PM ET
I'd love to put them up, but I don't know if it's legal either. With the actual recording, there might be some royalties that need to be paid to ASCAP/BMI for redistributing them again... I'll ask my communications professor who worked in industry and see what he thinks.
-Kevin
Webmaster of Bernadette-Peters.com
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mrbig
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Fav. BP Song: Not a Day Goes By
Fav. BP Show: Sunday in the Park...
Fav. BP Character: Dot in SITPWG
Fav. BP CD: Sondheim, Etc.
| posted: 7/15/2003 at 10:10:16 PM ET
That sounds great. Artists like Bernadette and Bette are great in the studio, but I think they really thrive when heard in a "live" setting. Bernadette is an amazing live performer and (in my opinion) these recording really show off her unbelievable talents!
mrbig from big d
"No matter what you say, Children Will Listen..."
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Lj
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6/27/2003 | posted: 7/15/2003 at 10:12:49 PM ET
I THINK, (I'm not positive), but as far as the VCR recordings go...I think it becomes illegal when you sell them, which is not the case here. But I, too, think it's great and generous of you to offer.
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dededarlin
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6/11/2003
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new orleans, LA | posted: 7/15/2003 at 10:14:33 PM ET
whoa....they have Roses Turn from the Tonys recorded? well, duh nevermind that is stating the obvious. but seriously, you can download it???!!
anything that leaves a footprint that large is no who
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Bwaybaby
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3/10/2001 | posted: 7/15/2003 at 10:16:35 PM ET
You can record stuff like that with a tape recorder or an MP3 recorder 
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mrbig
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Fav. BP Song: Not a Day Goes By
Fav. BP Show: Sunday in the Park...
Fav. BP Character: Dot in SITPWG
Fav. BP CD: Sondheim, Etc.
| posted: 7/15/2003 at 10:28:43 PM ET
I made the recording by connecting my VCR directly to my laptop. That way any additional sounds (like the kind you would get when using a tape recorder) are eliminated. Of course (like I said) the older recordings are from older VHS tapes...so they are not perfect...but still very easy to listen to.
mrbig from big d
"No matter what you say, Children Will Listen..."
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Bwaybaby
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3/10/2001 | posted: 7/15/2003 at 10:31:37 PM ET
Ooooo I didn't know you could do that. Wow, you learn someting new everyday
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 Christine-NYC
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Fav. BP CD: Bernadette Peters Loves Rogers and Hammerstein
| posted: 7/15/2003 at 10:40:10 PM ET
I didn't know you could do that either. LOL then again, I just recently figured out that I can transfer things from my DVD to my VHS (for my friends that don't have DVD players and want the extra features from things).
Now I want to connect a laptop to my VCR! lol
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 dulcinea4
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| posted: 7/15/2003 at 10:57:48 PM ET
I don't know the legality of it either, but I love Bette Midler and recently listened to an mp3 of Rose's Turn she did at the Emmy's the year she was nomintated. They change the offerings every so often and I know the site has been around awhile. Here's the link. Bootleg Betty
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mrbig
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Fav. BP Song: Not a Day Goes By
Fav. BP Show: Sunday in the Park...
Fav. BP Character: Dot in SITPWG
Fav. BP CD: Sondheim, Etc.
| posted: 7/16/2003 at 1:44:26 AM ET
The Bette Midler site I was referring to (with all of the streams from the 70's and 80's) is
www.betteontheboards.com.
If you are a Bette Midler fan then you'll love this site.
mrbig from big d
"No matter what you say, Children Will Listen..."
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 BP Broadway Diva
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Fav. BP Song: Rose's Turn
Fav. BP Show: Gypsy
Fav. BP Character: Rose
Fav. BP CD: Sondheim Etc
| posted: 7/16/2003 at 10:56:33 AM ET
Christine- Ypu can transfer DVD's to VHS? How? haha can you do it the other way too VHS to DVD?
*§~Danielle~§*
"Here she is Boys...Here she is World...Here's Rose!!!"
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 moljul
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| posted: 7/16/2003 at 11:01:17 AM ET
You simply set it up like you are copying a tape to a tape. Except you connect the VCR to a DVD player instead of another VCR. No it won't work the other way around unless your have a DVD recorder which most people don't in that they only came out a couple of years ago.
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BP Broadway Diva
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Fav. BP Song: Rose's Turn
Fav. BP Show: Gypsy
Fav. BP Character: Rose
Fav. BP CD: Sondheim Etc
| posted: 7/16/2003 at 12:14:27 PM ET
Thanks moljul,
I'll have to try it! Cause my grandma wanted to see my Big fat greek wedding and see doesn't even understand what a dvd player is. lol so I'll try and tape it for her.
*§~Danielle~§*
"Here she is Boys...Here she is World...Here's Rose!!!"
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Christine-NYC
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Fav. BP Song: With So Little to be Sure Of
Fav. BP Show: Gypsy
Fav. BP Character: Marie (insert last name) lol There's a few
Fav. BP CD: Bernadette Peters Loves Rogers and Hammerstein
| posted: 7/16/2003 at 2:49:50 PM ET
Well I have a DVD/VCR combo. When I got my DVD player I wasn't ready to give up having a VCR, and coincidentely the VCR I had was broken. So, I got a machine that had a deck for a DVD and a deck for a VHS (it was like $120 and I don't have to go through the trouble of hooking up wires to record from one to the other).
I considered also buying a recordable DVD player, but those are way too expensive at the moment. I'll wait until the prices go down.
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