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BroadwayBaby123
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6/25/2003 | posted: 7/2/2003 at 4:27:18 PM ET
I'm not going to argue with you over what her personal post-show agenda is, but unless you have proof that she is fact, standing back there frantically signing things, I think it's safe to say that she probably does the majority of the signing at a less hectic time. Correct me if I'm wrong.
When did I ever say that that the "normal" kids are better than children who are involved in show business? Never. I stated that from my experience, it's not uncommon for kids to get an unorthodox thrill and excitement out of being asked for autographs and getting lots of attention. Can we please not pretend that CERTAIN children are made to feel superior by their parents, teachers, people they work with because of the kind of things are going through? Not to say this is the case for Gypsy, but when I was younger and spent a lot of time doing ballet, I witnessed the teachers, parents, everyone, praising these kids left and right and telling them how special, how lucky, how everyone wants to be them and be in their shoes. It even shone through when they were being DISCIPLINED, for crying out loud! "You have this chance that a MILLION kids would dream for, don't blow it by not staying on top of your schoolwork!" I think we're all putting up the "we don't want to believe it so we'll pretend it's not happening" filter when we say that a lot of kids in show business DO have the temptation to let their egos out of hand. Just turn on the TV! In interviews, these kids are almost always talking and schmoozing like mini-adults, complete with a Starbucks in their 9 year old hands! This is not to say all kids in show business are like this, and you see it more with children in movies, but I think it's very naive to pretend like this doesn't happen.
I understand what you mean about the parents forcing their kids to ask for autographs because they come off "cute". It's terrible, but what are you gonna do? The parents are at fault for this. Let's not get off the subject, though, and get in a war over which is worse.
| Bwaybaby
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So, basically what you're saying is that because Bernadette is not out there auctioning this stuff off personally that its run badly?? That's just ridiculous! This is a CHARITY. Its not part of her job! You have to keep in mind...she's exhausted after a show...she needs time to get ready to go home and greet her fans. She often times has guests going backstage to see her and I'm sure at times goes over notes and whatnot with Sam and others. Her assistant is the one, for the most part, who runs the whole thing of selling things for Broadway Barks outside of the stage door. Isn't it enough that Bernadette was even part of setting up a wonderful charity to begin with? Now she's got to be involved in EVERY aspect of it?? Not only is she selling her own personal things for this( on ebay) but they're going out and getting a ton of stuff to sell as well...not only that but she personally signs each item. And on top of that,and yes I know this for a FACT, if they run out of signed things while they are selling items at the stage door and people still want to buy things ... someone from the show will run back and hand Bernadette the item to be signed right then and there. What more would you like her to do? Personalize each item? Or perhaps you want her to draw something herself and then sell that for the charity...Oh,wait! She did do that! What do you want her to do next? Hand sew each and every stuffed animal they sell??
Bernadette is very lucky that many wonderful people have stepped forward to help with this charity. Yes, she is one of the people who helped establish it and plays a major role in the charity, but she is not the only one. Why is it absolutely necessary for her to be outside selling these things? Trust me, she is not slacking off.
I respect your views however, you are presenting them more like they are facts, which they are not. You stated that the children in the show "beg" people to buy stuff and that those waiting at the stage door feel awkward about that and feel obligated to buy stuff. Really? Because I see people jumping at the chance to buy something they think is cool AND donate to a great charity all at the same time. I also see people who are perfectly fine with not donating any money and waiting for Bernadette to come out. Like I said in my previous post, no one is forced or put on the spot to have to donate any money. Its not like they're passing around a hat to each and every person. Also, they always state WHY they are selling these items and make it clear that its for a good cause. Its not like Bernadette is pocketing this money for her own personal use...its all going to CHARITY. If someone really feels THAT bothered by being asked to donate to a charity( when they have the option of saying yes or no) then I think you need to question their morals and ethics, not those involved with Broadway Barks! Its set up with class...like I said, they do not pass around a hat. They're selling you something in return for your donation. Its explained to people what they are donating for. They do not put people on the spot or chastise them for not donating.
As far as the situation with the gentleman...again that was Bernadette's decision and I'm sure they wouldn't just let him back without asking her first. Like, I stated, her assistant is there each night selling these things for Broadway Barks so she definitely has access to ask Bernadette about these types of situations.
You also stated that you thought it would have been better if Bernadette had discussed this with the man OUTSIDE, rather then backstage. Well, if you thought that kids outside the stage door felt bad seeing him go backstage how do you think they would have felt seeing Bernadette fuss over him and say thank you and all outside infront of them. I would think that would make them feel even worse. I highly doubt the man got a backstage tour, he probably just stood right inside the door and waited for Bernadette to meet him there. Its not often she will invite strangers into her dressing room. Were you there this particular night? And if so, did you speak to all the kids and adults waiting at the stage door to see if they felt like they were being treated poorly because they didn't offer up the $100 and get to go backstage? Its not fair to assume....
By the way, I have heard the kids from this show have conversations with kids waiting at the stage door and encourage them to pursue their dreams. You do not now if these kids do or do not do any charitable things on their free time( like you said going to shelters and playing with dogs) However, I can give you many examples of kids from shows doing some very nice and very charitable things! Some charities that I KNOW some Broadway kids have participated with...Locks of Love, various AIDS charities and cancer charities. And those are just a few examples.
Who cares if the kids get a thrill from being recognized while selling things for a great cause? Its not harmful to anyone. They should feel proud of their talent and the great performances they put on...they shouldn't feel the need to hide.
You asked why they do not sell these things inside and here are some possible answers.
I don't know about this type of thing to well but perhaps if they sold this stuff inside( in the lobby) they would have to give a percentage of their profits to the producers of the show, even if it is a charity. I know BCEFA has done this before but they're also affiliated with pretty much every theatre. Again, I don't really know about that type of thing, but I suppose it could be a possibility.
Room is another big factor, where are they supposed to store all of this stuff while they're selling it. They need room for the regular merchandise as well. And I'm sure it would also cause quite a crowd in the lobby. I would imagine it would also be quite hard for them to explain what Broadway Barks is in the lobby over a hundred people talking and moving in and out of the theatre. People HAVE to walk through the lobby if they're going to see the show. They don't have to go to the stage door if they're seeing a show. So the way Broadway Barks does it is, I think, a more respectful way of doing things.
I know many shows will have employees go OUTSIDE before the show begins to sell programs for the show...they will yell at the top of their lungs saying they are selling these programs too.
And finally, this is probably the most organized way to do it. There are people standing outside the stage door anyways. They're not making anyone be there, they are there by choice. You asked wondering why they wouldn't put an ad for it in the playbill...It would cost a lot of money to make 11,000+ print outs per week announcing this.
I'm tired of hearing the stereo type about child actors. There's a reason why generalizations are usually false.....
Yes, I'm sure some child actors may act the way you described but I can also bet you that many "normal" kids act that same way. I know many child actors and they're not at all the way you described. They feel very fortunate because they know there are other kids out there that wish they were doing what these kids are doing each night...but that doesn't mean they take advantage of that or throw it in other kids faces!
Yes, in this business because this is considered their job they are expected to listen to directions and be able to communicate well with adults( for the most part). But again, they're not being forced into this, unless their mother is Mama Rose. I'll even go as far as to say that for the most part...the kids I have met or know in this industry are the most well rounded, generous, well mannered and smartest kids I have ever met. All of the kids I know in this business are in it by choice and wouldn't want to be doing anything else. Its their life and its what they love.
| BroadwayBaby123
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6/25/2003 | posted: 7/2/2003 at 9:08:49 PM ET
Boy...quite a post to respond to!
I never said it was run badly simply because Bernadette is not out there selling everything by herself! I QUESTIONED, that if they are going to make such a huge deal of it, maybe she should at least come out and explain to everyone why this is so important to her!
Not to be nit-picky, but didn't the costume designer draw the picture?
When I said the children are "begging" I meant it as a figure of speech to get a point across. Obviously they are not down on their hands and knees pleading everyone to buy their stuff.
You know, unless you are standing right there next to these people waiting, I wouldn't be so quick to make assumptions that they "fine" with not buying anything. I stood right in the middle of a pack of people, and when everyone came out to start their speech, I saw and heard more than a few sighs, rolling eyes, etc. It's NOT NOT NOT that these people don't want to donate money to a charity! It's not that they think this charity is ridiculous. It's not that they don't believe in helping animals. It's the way they are making people stand there in the middle of the night and listen to a whole schpeel at this point in time. They should not do this at the end of the show! People have to get back home to deal with babysitters, get up early in the morning, get their kids to bed...why didn't I even get to see Bernadette the first night I came out? Because my parents were dead tired and wanted to go home! This in no way relates to the cause Broadway Barks is representing. It's more an issue of exhaustion, tiredness, etc.
If they insist on this type of selling, why don't they do it before the show? I'm not bothered by being asked to donate to a charity, but I am a bit annoyed when I'm asked to do so after A. I've probably spent all my cash on souveneirs and drinks inside the theater, B. It's 11:30 at night, C. I didn't know this was part of the deal of getting my program signed. This is mainly why this bothers me! If they had had this going at the beginning, either inside the lobby or outside, maybe I could have donated something. Plus, they'd get a lot more donations because most people don't stay to get their programs signed.
When I said she should have discussed this outside with the man instead of backstage, I did not mean having a full-fledged air kiss thank you thank you routine take place. She could have discretely and graciously thanked him and told him how much it meant to her. There is no need to set off a fireworks display for someone who donates that kind of money. After all, this was not a 50,000 donation, and even if it was, donations are meant to be just that. Donations. They are not meant for people to get extra special attention. The idea of a selfless donation is to not expect anything in return. Why do you think people who donate large sums of money somewhere often request to remain anonymous? If there is nothing wrong with this then why were you concerned with it getting around? Regardless of a person's motive, if someone found out about this and donated $100 dollars to get backstage, then I would think that's a good thing.
The Broadway Kids having conversations with children in the audience...big whoop! Most kids converse with other children on a daily basis. It's not something to be gawked at. If a "normal" kid who happened to be an excellent violinist happened to give another kid tips on playing, would you call the press? These kids shouldn't be gawked at as if they are some museum exhibit for doing something nice. I think there is a serious problem when children are applauded for showing common courtesy! It should be a natural thing!It's very nice that the children you know participate in Locks of Love, AIDS, and cancer charities, but hey, so do the kids in my school. I think two kids in my class alone (and I don't have a big class) donated their hair to Locks of Love and we didn't hear about it until they came in with short hair. No need to announce it!
If a child has their heart in it, then I say go for it, but I really think it takes a truly wonderful and on top of things family to keep these kids level-headed. Unfortunately, a lot of times these parents get so caught up in the excitement themselves that the kids go haywire without even knowing it.
| BroadwayBernadetteLover
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whoa....... i am SO sorry to have caused these hugely long posts to be put on here that are so heated and serious..... i am really very very sorry. i should have just privately messaged bwaybaby about it, but i don't really know how to... i am so sorry about all of this.
i, personally, agree with bwaybaby and christine-nyc, but that is beside the point. i should have explained the situation better, but then things may have gotten even MORE twisted around because i don't know all the specifics. i do know, however, that the man asked the lady who was "running" the selling of the items outside if he could pay the money to broadway barks to see bernadette. basically, he asked to be let backstage to see her because of his generosity. bernadette did think this over; it took awhile for the assisstant to come back and reply that, yes, he had permission.
again, i don't know all the circumstances of this, but i am so sorry that i started all this.... i am a young person (13), and i love bernadette for everything she does, especially her help with charities! just her showing her support of the charity and being at the annual thing in Schubert Alley shows that she cares enough & obviously helps the charity a great, great deal.
i could go on & on, but we've had plenty of that in these past posts, but i agree with bwaybaby..... i am so sorry for all this "trouble" i've caused  
I so wish I was Bernadette's daughter! Sorry, wishful thinking again...... but we do have the SAME BIRTHDAY!!!! February 28 is the bestest day ever!!!! by the way, BROADWAY ROX!!!!!! =)
| Bwaybaby
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In your own words you said : "This is an issue of morals and ethics." And then you went on to state how these children in the show were being monopolized and that they're out there doing this, not because they may want to do something good for another living creature but because they want to get noticed. And you went on to say how this made all these children and adults at the stage door feel heartbroken and like they were left out of some secret society (which does not even exist!)You also stated all the ways you would do this correctly and better if you were a rep for Broadway Barks. Whether you want to believe it or not, there are people in this world with a good heart and Bernadette is one of those people.
I understand you said, you think Broadway Barks is a wonderful charity...but in the next breath you are chastising it. This charity is something that is very close to Bernadette's heart, as well as many many other people. I really don't think you have any idea how much HARD work goes into this charity that doesn't get publicly recognized!
You stated: "By the way, not to say that she has to be involved in every aspect, but the people who are donating money are certainly involved in every aspect of handing over the cash!"
Yes and like I've stated many times before it is THEIR decision if they want to hand over that money or not. No one is FORCING them!
"Not to be nit-picky, but didn't the costume designer draw the picture?"
Yes, Matt Logan did draw one of the photos. But Bernadette and Mary have also contributed their drawings to be sold.
"You know, unless you are standing right there next to these people waiting, I wouldn't be so quick to make assumptions that they "fine" with not buying anything."
Actually, I HAVE stood right next to them. Sure maybe some people may have a problem with it. But on a whole, No, most do not!
"It's NOT NOT NOT that these people don't want to donate money to a charity! It's not that they think this charity is ridiculous. It's not that they don't believe in helping animals. It's the way they are making people stand there in the middle of the night and listen to a whole schpeel at this point in time. They should not do this at the end of the show! People have to get back home to deal with babysitters, get up early in the morning, get their kids to bed...why didn't I even get to see Bernadette the first night I came out? Because my parents were dead tired and wanted to go home! If they insist on this type of selling, why don't they do it before the show? My God, at least that gives people the option of going to sit down in their seats and not listen if they want to, instead of having to stand there tapping their foot because all they want is an autograph."
Wow, the last time I checked they did NOT NOT NOT (lol) force anyone to stand there for the whole "schpeel". And if people are really SO concerned about getting home for the babysitters and whatnot then what are they doing waiting at the stage door for Bernadette to come out in the first place?? Maybe you didn't realize, but Bernadette would take JUST AS LONG to come out even if they weren't selling anything for Broadway Barks. As I stated before, she has other obligations to deal with after the show.
You make it sound like Bernadette is obligated to go out side every night and sign autographs and take pictures with people. Well, she's not! There are a ton of celebrities who will not do what she does for her fans each and every night. By the way,having to donate money to a charity is not part of the "deal" to get your program signed. Did someone tell you that in order to get Bernadette's autograph you had to donate money to Broadway Barks? No, I bet they did not. And I already explained to you many possibilities why they may have chosen to do things the way they do.
"The idea of a selfless donation is to not expect anything in return. "
Yeah, exactly, which is what I posted in my FIRST post and then you went on saying that this was all about the morals and ethics of Broadway Barks and how they choose to sell items for their charity.
You never answered me when I asked if you were actually at the stage door the same night the gentleman which leads to to believe you were there and eavesdropping and came to some pretty strong assumptions or you were not there and you're making an awful lot of assumptions as well, about a situation you do not know completely about.
As far as your comments about the kids.....
You stated:" The Broadway Kids having conversations with children in the audience...big whoop! Most kids converse with other children on a daily basis. It's not something to be gawked at. If a "normal" kid who happened to be an excellent violinist happened to give another kid tips on playing, would you call the press? These kids shouldn't be gawked at as if they are some museum exhibit for doing something nice."
YOU were the one who stated in the first place that you thought these kids were too above others to want to talk with kids at the stage door!
Your words exactly were : " I for one would be VERY VERY VERY impressed if these kids got together and went to shelter and played the dogs or took them on walks, or talked to the kids that went to the show and encouraged them to do that. "
And I merely stated that yes, they do do this.
Regardless of what you may have seen on E! Hollywood True Stories, not all child actors grow up to be miserable adults! Obviously, parents need to guide their children. I don't think anyone doubts that, but children also have their own free will and their own personalities. There are parents out there who did the best they could and their kids still wound up on the "wrong" track. And then there are those parents who neglected, abused...ect their children and their kids turned out to be wonderful adults.
You stated:"I'm not speaking solely about the kids in Gypsy, I'm talking about child actors in general. A lot of times they don't know they even sound stuck up or bratty in the first place."
Again, I think that is dependent on each individual child's personality. There are tons of kids in school who are not in the business and will brag about just about anything. As far as them being made fun of at school for being in the business. Children who are not in the business are made fun of EVERY day. Its horrible, but its a fact of life.
"I think there is a serious problem when children are applauded for showing common courtesy! "
Tell me that after you take child psych! I did, and you will learn that that is how children learn to do morally right things--By getting a positive response after doing it the first few times. I'm not saying EVERY single time they do something nice in their life...but as they are learning...yes, some praising is necessary.
|  Kevin
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| posted: 7/2/2003 at 10:12:03 PM ET
Ok, this is getting pretty heated... I don't want this to degrade into a real nasty fight. Let's agree to disagree, OK?
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| Bwaybaby
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BroadwayBernadetteLover--
I figured by reading your post that you did not intend anything bad to come of your posting what you did. Don't worry about it. I am about to send you a private message so check back in a few mins 
Broadwaybaby123- THIS is exactly the reason why I asked you to private message me concerning this. But what's done is done. No one is to blame...time to move on 
| jmslsu01
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Darn....just when I was set to chime in with remarks about praise,human development,and all that jazz.
S'okay. That's not the main issue at hand here. But I can prattle about human development and early development psychology for hours. ;-)
But I will say this-how you respond to "pleas" like this is your own business,and however comfortable or uncomfortable you are is your own business. For example,I'm not comfortable giving money to people who collect for charity by traffic lights or on the telephone. That's just me. I have to examine their literature and research their expenditures (how much goes to programs vs. "office" costs,etc).
On the other hand,I'm in a position where,on occasion,I do have to beg for more money for what we do (and don't always get it),so I completely know about that world.
And before anyone makes any cute remarks,I'm not turning tricks. :-o
Jenn
| BroadwayBaby123
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6/25/2003 | posted: 7/3/2003 at 12:59:32 AM ET
All right, this is getting pretty silly, and although I could go on all day and night, it looks like everyone here is ready to forgive and forget. So be it! But first, let me say this...
BwdyBaby, no, I was not there the night this "instance" with the man and the donation occured. Either way, I would have been against it. It was posted on the board so I figured it was up for discussion.
Okay. I'm done.
| BroadwayBernadetteLover
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hey, can somebody tell me how to private message someone & wut that exactly is? i'm not sure i get it... i mean, i kno ur just talking 2 them privately. neway, letz all get bak on the subject of Bernadette, & thanx kevin 4 stepping in.
okay.... Bernadette.... does anybody have any $$ making tips? i'm trying to save up to go to NYC and see her again (for my b'day and hers!), but itz going 2 cost a LOT considering i'm only 13 and i don't make any money!! also, does Bernadette really read her mail, because i know she can't respond because of time constraints, etc... but does she really read all of the myriad letters she recieves? and is there a way to be sure she will be there the night you buy tickets (as in, it's not one of her days off.... does she get days off besides sundays? hmm..) ok thanx for any help! 
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I so wish I was Bernadette's daughter! Sorry, wishful thinking again...... but we do have the SAME BIRTHDAY!!!! February 28 is the bestest day ever!!!! by the way, BROADWAY ROX!!!!!!
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Everything's coming up Rose,
Everything's coming up Roses,
Everything's coming up BERNADETTE!"
| Bwaybaby
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3/10/2001 | posted: 7/3/2003 at 10:21:41 PM ET
Hi there.--
To send a private message click on this thread where Kevin explains it all
http://www.bernadette-peters.com/cgi-bin/pmessage.pl?action=read&fid=achat&mid=4469&highlight=%22clicking%22+
To answer some of your other questions: Putting your extra change into a jar can help you save some money, It might not seem like a lot at first. But I did this once and managed to save about $90 in a matter of a few months. You could always try telling your parents or relatives that for your birthday you would like to see Bernadette in Gypsy and maybe they'll give you money for that and that would be their birthday gift to you.
Yes, Bernadette does read her fan mail.....I really cannot say for certain if she reads ALL of it, but I do know she reads a good portion of it atleast.
There really is no way to be certain that Bernadette will be there for whatever day you purchased your tickets. Last minute things could come up-- like illness or something. But as of now, she has no scheduled absences planned. Unless, she is sick, an unplanned emergency comes up or she has a scheduled day off then she performs 8 shows a week( Sunday being their dark day).
Hope that helps
| BroadwayBaby123
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I really hope you end up seeing Gypsy! It's fabulous, and hey, even if for some reason she isn't the show the day you go, you'll have a great time anyways.
The change thing is a good idea, as is asking your friends and relatives for money for your birthday. Babysitting, of course, is a great way to make money. Put flyers in your neighbors mailboxes. That's what I did when I started babysitting. Even if they don't have kids, sometimes they'll know people who are desperate for someone good, and sometimes you can even get an unexpected job, like dog-watching! A neighbor of mine whom I had never met actually called me to watch her dog because he didn't like to be left alone when they went out late at night!
Hmm..other ways...you could always advertise a bunch of things on your flyers, in addition to babysitting. I put down babysitting, dog walking, watering plants, things like that. You can earn a lot of money for doing things for people while they are on vacation, such as watering plants, taking in their mail, and playing with and feeding their pets (in exception to dogs, which you can't really leave alone).
This might sound a little childish but it really works! I'm in high school and my friends and I did this to make money for a school event. Find out when the town social events are (block parties, carnivals, stuff like that) and set up a table that offers a bunch of ammenities...such as nail painting, face painting, fortune telling, doing people's hair, etc. Get some friends to help, and you'll have a great time. In addition, you'll make a lot of money!
If that's too elaborate, see if the day camps around you are hiring counselors. They usually hire kids as young as 12 to help with the really little kids, or do stuff like helping prepare snack and setting up projects. These shifts might last the whole summer, but a couple years ago, I got one that was in two week shifts, and I made $18 a day for working only 9-11 in the morning! Not bad for a 13 year old...You'll have the money in no time!
To keep the prices down when you're buying an airline ticket, go on 11th hour vacations, or some other website that offers very low fares in exchange for you planning your trip only a couple of days in advance. Or, if that's too risky, try ATA or Southwest, because their prices are usually low anyways.
Whew...I hope that helped! Tell me if you need any more ideas.
| BroadwayBernadetteLover
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thanx so much for helping!!!!!!! yeah it really does help too! lol. i'm just kinda scared though because i usually have a friendship w/ the ppl i babysit/housesit/dogsit/etc. for...... but thnx so much! i might try a car wash with some friends, too.....hey you never know, right? lol. i got to see Gypsy once, but mostly i want to go back to see her after the show........ that would be the coolest thing ever ever ever! lol. thnx for your help, both of you!!!!!!!! ur great!
also, i was about to rent pennies from heaven but it was rated R i think, so i'm going 2 need 2 ask my parents...... is it really rated R? if so, why? thanx!!!
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I so wish I was Bernadette's daughter! Sorry, wishful thinking again...... but we do have the SAME BIRTHDAY!!!! February 28 is the bestest day ever!!!! by the way, BROADWAY ROX!!!!!!
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"Gangway world, get offa my runway...
Everything's coming up Rose,
Everything's coming up Roses,
Everything's coming up BERNADETTE!"
| Bwaybaby
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Yeah, as far as I remember, it is rated R. And I personally think, for good reasons. I just don't think its appropriate for kids. Although, I guess that would also depend on each individual kid. But yeah, there are some situations and scenes that are of a very mature nature.
|  moljul
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| posted: 7/8/2003 at 8:47:44 PM ET
There is some very brief nudity in it and a few sexually suggestive scenes. Plus the whole story line is a bit adult but if it helps with your parents, this movie is rated R by eary 1980s standards. I would think it wouldn't have any trouble getting a PG-13 rating today and that's probably only for the nudity, not the story.
| BroadwayBaby123
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6/25/2003 | posted: 7/8/2003 at 9:17:17 PM ET
Trust me, when I was younger, my parents were THE WORST about letting me see movies that were rated R. When I was in 6th grade, I had to beg and plead just for them to let me see PG-13!
My advice to you would be asking your mom or dad to watch the movie with you, or to watch it beforehand. It's better than a flat out no, and it shows maturity, because you're telling them you wouldn't sneak behind their back and watch it at your friends house or something. If they watch it before hand, then they can judge for themselves whether you can see it or decide just to "censor" the bad parts! LOL, my mom was THE QUEEN of making me close my eyes while she fast-forwarded! But at least you get to see the bulk of the movie, right?
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