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Bwaybaby
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Actually, her son, Blake, is not Mexican..not that it matters but your info is not correct. Rosie describes Blake as " half Italian, half hodge-podge". I really do think Rosie has a very big heart and regardless of how she got her kids( as long as it wasn't illegal) then does it matter?? But yeah, I think its quite obvious that Rosie doesn't care about the race of her children( hence, everything she went through with Mia)
A lot of people these days adopt outside of the US #1 because its harder finding kids up for adoption here and #2 all the legal troubles #3 in fear that the mother might want him/her back and can in the US
Some very good friends of mine adopted a little girl from China about 5 years ago. Adopting a baby from another country is not as easy as you think. You have to do all their (the other countries) legal stuff. Fly over there to bring the baby home with you. Plus, many of the orphanages in other countries are not so nice. My friend's daughter still (at age 7) has nightmares about the orphanage she was in and she was adopted when she was about 16 or 17 months old...so that says a lot right there.
| jmslsu01
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Yes-adopting from another country is not the easy way out of avoiding possible troubles with U.S. adoption-even though the vast majority of U.S. adoptions are successful and do not end up as a segment on Dateline.
When you adopt internationally,you rarely have information about the mother's or father's health. Since the children are in institutionalized care (orphanages),their cognitive and emotional development will be delayed the longer they are in the institution-16 months,as in Bwaybaby's friend's case,is a long time for a child to be in institutionalized care. No matter how loving the care is-and there are caring staff at orphanages (I know this for a fact)-the child will be affected,as was evidenced by the many Romanian orphans who were adopted after the Ceausescu regime fell.
Countries may also chose to ban adoption to the United States for different reasons-as did China a few months ago due to the SARS crisis (the ban has recently been lifted). And since documents have expired, many parents have to start the process all over again-which adds at least another month to wait-and time is precious when you're dealing with an institutionalized child-and adds more money.
Countries may rule to not adopt to people of certain ages or make it difficult for single people to adopt from their country. Joint adoptions by gay couples is rare-only one parent may be the legal guardian.
You also won't have much information about the parents-healthwise or not. Plus,you have intercultural issues that must be worked out.
As for it being hard to find kids to adopt in the U.S.-that's not the reason to adopt internationally,because you can end up with a lot of problems later on down the road that you may not be aware of when you go get your baby from another country. If you adopt domestically,you'll know a lot more about your child's situation. If the only child you will accept is a healthy,white baby,then you will have to wait,but it isn't impossible. If you are willing to adopt a biracial baby,then you wouldn't have to wait as long. You'll still have cultural issues to work with if you decide to adopt internationally,even if you adopt from Eastern Europe.
I'm not saying that domestic adoption is better than international adoption-but too many people have misconceptions about domestic adoptions. As for fear that the birth mother may take the child back and other legal troubles-that's less likely than the country of your child's origin changing international adoption rules,as have South American countries,China,and Eastern European countries. International adoption is a very sensitive topic for these countries,and hurt pride has caused more than one country to change or restrict adoption regulations. And it's not unknown for a mother in another country to show up at the orphanage and take her child back. It's not a risk-free situation by any means.
Jenn
|  Christine-NYC
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| posted: 7/14/2003 at 9:55:46 PM ET
I'm really sorry. I had no intention of turning this into a people adoption discussion. I had merely used it as an example of celebrities seemingly getting things a little quicker than the average person.
I really think we should end the adoption discussion so as not to offend anyone that may read this board. There may be readers who are sensitive to this subject, as well as a race subject (which is why I used the word caucasion instead of white)...but I guess we can't all be politically correct.
Perhaps we can just go back to discussing pet adoption.
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| jmslsu01
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northern VA | posted: 7/15/2003 at 10:13:46 AM ET
Christine-
If you really,really want to know about the term Caucasian,research the German anthropologist Johann Friedrich Blumenbach or his On the Natural Variety of Mankind (he's the one who coined the term,and it wasn't to be PC).
As for pet adoption-anyone have any good recommendations for an apartment (dog breed-wise)? I'll go to the local shelter,but they do have purebreeds there as well. I'm not looking for a purebreed specifically.)
Jenn
| Christine-NYC
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| posted: 7/15/2003 at 1:20:10 PM ET
Jenn-
That was rather uncalled for. I know the term was not coined in order to be PC, but in today's day and age it is considered PC...much more than "Black" or "White." I tend to not be so much concerned about the history of certain things; as I am more concerned with the here and now.
I was trying to be nice and end a conversation that was clearly heading towards an argument.
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|  Kevin
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| posted: 7/15/2003 at 5:25:19 PM ET
Christine:
Nah, I didn't see any shows. I have to admit to wanting to see Avenue Q, though. That one looks to be totally my speed 
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| jmslsu01
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northern VA | posted: 7/15/2003 at 8:16:48 PM ET
Goodness,Christine. I'm sending a PM.
Jenn
| Bwaybaby
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Kevin, I just got an email from a friend who saw Avenue Q and he raved about it! I can't wait to see it now!
| Christine-NYC
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| posted: 7/15/2003 at 10:26:40 PM ET
I'm looking foward to seeing Avenue Q myself. I heard great things about it while it was Off-Broadway, but I never got a chance to see it. I'm so glad to see it's coming to Broadway.
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